Tuesday, August 15, 2006

The new hot topic...

So the last post has spurred discussion on the following question; is it possible for a black hole to destroy life on earth without destroying the earth itself? Is it an all or nothing sort of thing?

I would say that it is possible, although not eminent, without a doubt, for a black hole to destroy earth. But, I do believe that it could also have an adverse effect on earth with out swallowing it whole. My commenter Ray, on the other hand feels, that there is no way a black hole can inflict damage upon earth without totally destroying it. Its worthy to note first of all that Ray is a virgin, but also has a very good grasp on astro-physics, yet I choose to challenge him on this.

Let say a black hole opened 100 light years away (all numbers hypothetical) and no adverse effects were delivered upon earth-human life would continue. Now lets say that same black hole opened only 50 light years from earth and consumed the whole galaxy, we're screwed for sure. Now suppose a black hole opened 75 Light years away, far enough away not to completely devour us, but far enough away so interfere with the gravitational arrangement that suspends us and every other planet in space.

This too is plausible; if the outer reaches of the galaxy are pulled even the slightest bit this could cause a chain reaction, which could affect us. Yes I know the galaxy is always expanding, and moving at the same time but lets say the black hole changed its trajectory. It could pull planets off its orbit just a bit by adding an additional force other than the, up until this point, unchallenged force emitted by the sun which holds the planets in alignment. If this changed the axis at which the earth rotates guess what, we're toast. Hey lets see what happens when polar ice caps are now more directly exposed to the sun's rays. Water levels would rise dramatically, killing millions. Or if its tilted the other way, winters of unimaginable ferocity would be visited upon some of the most populated regions of the planet. Which I might add, does not have the required capacity to withstand!

Or lets postulate some more, smart ass! What if due to new gravitational forces caused by said black hole sent entire asteroid belts hurdling towards earth. Think about it, chaos of unimaginable proportions. Nuclear winter caused by so much dust and debris in the atmosphere, blocking the suns rays.

What say you Ray? Spit some of your theoretical gangsta' astro physics now.

13 Comments:

At 12:14 PM, Blogger kchan said...

Although I support your theorem on the potential damage caused by smaller intergalactic objects being pulled by earth into the blackhole, I take issue with your general "chain reaction" argument.

Seeing as how I specialize in field theory, I don't know a lot about astro-physics, but I know enough to know you're wrong.

That said, the only people who know about stuff like this are big, geeky losers, so you're probably better off in the long run.

 
At 4:25 PM, Anonymous ray said...

Listen you stupid piece of shit, you must first know what a black hole is to first even begin to discuss. To start off I am by no means an astrophysicist, nor do I claim to be one, I just have some very basic background in space and space exploration. I am merely just amazed and stunned by what is out there, stars, galaxies, super novas, black holes, dark matter and such; one thing that really boggles my mind more than anything is the great distances in space and its untainted mystery. And no I am not a virgin; I haven’t been for sometime now, though I do wish I was, considering what your mom gave me El! But as your parents know quite well mistakes are often unchangeable.

Now to tell you how stupid you sound with what you just wrote. The first false you stated is when you said, “Let(’s) say a black hole opened”, black holes just don’t open up, they are highly condensed matter with such great density that their gravitational force prevents even light to escape.

As you said “Yes I know the galaxy is always expanding”, the galaxy is not always expanding stupid! The universe is!!!!!! And that is only if you buy into the fucking theory! (which I do agree with), but there is nothing that suggests that the Galaxy is always expanding.

Just to give you an idea as to how big black holes are I am going to give you some measurements and definitions.

1 light year = 9.4605 * 10^15 meters, light years are used as a measure of distance.

The “Singularity” is where all this mass is (theoretically)

An “event horizon” is the gravitational force around the singularity where when you enter it, is the point of no return. In order to escape the event horizon (in theory) an object would have to be going faster than the speed of light, but some call the singularity as the event horizon. The only think you have to know about this is that you can’t escape the event horizon unless you are going faster than the speed of light

The accretion disk is a structure formed by material falling into the gravitational source

Think of the whole thing as a funnel, as water circles the funnel that is like an accretion disk.

The closest observed black hole to earth is roughly 1500 light years away, which isn’t that far compared to the vastness of space.

Here is the size of a black hole not too far away, don’t ask me how they got the measurements, the scientists in U.K used some pretty interesting math.

The event horizon was one light hour across, which is 9.4605*10^15 meters/365/24 = 1,079,252,820 km long and the accretion disk was roughly 2000 times that size of that. This is pretty damn large. Considering that the distance from the Sun to Jupiter is 817 million km, even if black hole was to whisk by us and not sucking us in, earth’s access would not just be tilted, with the amount of gravitational force of the black hole there would be chaos in the solar system.

It wouldn’t only affect earth, every other satellite in the solar system would be affected the sun would also go bonkers, life would seize to exist and we would probably run into other objects and so Martians would not exist in 2000 years.

Buddy don’t argue with me in hypothetical’s, especially in hypothetical’s that are highly unreasonable, like life existing on mars within 2000 years who would then come on earth and find your dumb fucking necklace….dumb ass, who do you think you are, why would they even want to know who you were! Fuck get over your self and your fucking ego, you are not that great you got lucky a few times with the help of a couple buddies, time was obviously with you. Be humble with whatever success you have gotten, for life is very uncertain.

AND WERE YOU PAYING ATTENTION!!!! WE WERE ALSO ARGUING how stupid your last post was in regards to Martians existing in 2000 years to find your damn necklace. WE WERE ALSO ARGUING that a single celled organism can’t evolve into species smart enough to figure out recreational space travel? Yea the evolution process evolves right????? Dumbass!!!!!! AND how a supernova wouldn’t destroy earth? GET REAL ASSHOLE!!!! You said a lot of stupid shit that day, I don’t know why I take it so seriously.

I would give you more mathematical facts but it’s not worth researching them and writing them on your blog. Obviously your post has bothered me enough to write as much as I did already, but to go any further would be ridiculous.

 
At 4:59 PM, Blogger El Chupacabra said...

Umm...

Since you claim to be so smart, I have a couple of questions for you.

Whats the event horizon with a girl, the point of no return, where theres no holding back and your gonna blow? Oh you don't know...perhaps if you've ever been laid in your life you'd know.

I bet the only thing that could escape an event horizon is your sperm cuz you cum fater than the speed of light. Keep your astro physic bull shit! I'll take getting laid anyday...which I do btw bitch!

 
At 12:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

speaking of intergalactic objects, i have always thought that we should put our garbage in outer space. That would clean the earth. THe Space Shuttle should transport our human garbage into outer space. Please advise on the viability of this exercise

 
At 12:53 AM, Blogger El Chupacabra said...

I responded to this a few days ago in my 50th post. Check it out

 
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